THE TALPASH FAMILY

            

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* arrival in 1884 * · Theodosiy: biography · * "My Recollections"

Theodosiy Talpash

In 1936, the Ukrainian National Association of the United States of America published a Jubilee book in commemoration of the 40th Anniversary of its existence.  It is an important chronicle of the first Ukrainians in the United States, their first steps on the new land, and the history of their organizational life.  Theodosiy Talpash, the first president of the Ukrainian National Association, was asked to contribute his "Recollections".

 

The following is a very direct translation (by Orest Talpash) from the original Ukrainian, of pp.270-5 of the Jubilee book of the Ukrainian National Association, Svoboda Press, Jersey City, NJ. 1936.

 

(Note the discrepancy in dates and age as recorded in the US Census of 1900 and of 1910, and in these "Recollections" recorded in the early 1930s.)

 

From My  Recollections

 

I first became interested in America when I was serving with the Austrian army in Pol on the Adriatic Sea, and later with the Austrian Gendarmerie in Bosnia during the first years of its occupation by the Austrian Army.  I carried on an active correspondence with the brothers Stefan and Peter Murdza, who were originally from my home village, Labowa, county of Nowy Sacz, about their life and experiences in America. On returning from military and gendarmerie service to my native village, I began evaluating the prospects which would await me on the family estates, with life in America which the Murdzas described in their letters, describing life at the Pennsylvania coal mines. My father was a well-to-do estate-owner, but there were 6 of us boys and of them I was the oldest.  Although father was a well-off, how prosperous could we be, his sons?--thought I.

 

And so in 1880, in my 23rd year, I left on my own for Hamburg and bought steamship passage to America.  When I arrived on this shore, I bought a ticket at the railroad station, for Shamokin, Pennsylvania, where my fellow-countrymen Murdzas lived.  I paid for this ticket -- I remember as if today -- 3 dollars and 16 cents.  It was the 4th of April when I boarded the Pennsylvania train and rode off to the west into the unknown land.

 

I searched for my fellow countrymen.

 

I got into Shamokin in the morning.  I had written to Stefan Murdza to come to the train station to meet me, but when I arrived at the station, there was no one.  With luggage in hand I walked out into the street of this strange town, in this strange country, and looked around, not knowing what to do, where to turn.  A man who looked like one of us walked by, so I asked him where Stefan Murdza lived. "What?"--he asked me, instead of replying. "Don't what me", I told him, "speak in a civil manner, the way I spoke to you". He led me to a grocery store.  He likely thought that the grocer would know where Murdza lived because Murdza probably bought groceries from him.  The grocer, a German, Shuman, saw me and was as happy to see me as he might have been for his own father.  He asked me where I was from, who I was, and what I wished to do.  He stood me on the store scale and weighed me.  When he saw that I weighed 204 lbs, he actually slapped his thighs:  "Now that's the kind they ought to send us here to America!" I inquired to him about Murdza.  No, he did not know Murdza but not to be surprised that my countryman did not meet me at the station.  In Shamokin mail was not delivered to homes because it was just too small of a town.  Everyone went to the post office for his own mail and usually those who work, have a chance perhaps once a week to pick up their mail. It is very likely that this must have happened with my fellow countryman.

 

Where to live?  What to do?

 

This German found me a place to stay at the home of a Slovak, at whose home boarded other Slovaks.  To tell the truth, I wanted to live with one of my own, but at that time there still were none. Now that I found a place to stay, I immediately started thinking about getting a job.  I started by asking my landlord.  He told me that finding a job just now was difficult, but he would make an effort to find one for me, but in any case, I would have to wait.  He also asked another Slovak in German whether he wouldn't ask some German for work.  I understood what they were saying to each other, and smiled.  The Slovak with whom my landlord was speaking saw this and said to the landlord:  "Hang on, because I think he understands German!"  "Yes", I said, "I also understand German." "If so", they said, "You will have a job by Monday."  They knew a "boss", a German-born man who hired only Germans. And Monday morning they went to speak with this "boss" (who's name was Anton Jung) and that same day I started work as a laborer in a mine. The work was ordinary, and for me not too difficult.  I was not afraid of work, and if I had any trouble in the mines, it was simply this: that it took me a long time to learn to walk in such a way as to not strike my head on the cross beams.

 

The first payday

 

I worked 18 days as a laborer in the mines for this German before I got my first pay in America. My boss said to me on this first payday:  "You worked for me 18 days. Because you are new, I can pay you only $9.00 a week.  If you stay on, I will pay you $10.00 a week.  Is that all right?" I agreed with him, not showing what I really thought.  Had he known, what I was thinking, when I heard that I would be making $9.00 a week! Had he known how quickly I had mentally changed these $9.00 into Austrian money, how wealthy I felt! "Did I wish to stay with him longer?"  Who wouldn't stay with him for money like this?  And I stayed on with him.  I worked like a mule.  I know that my German was pleased with my work because not once did he admonish me.

 

Second work place

 

I worked for Jung for 3 months.  After 3 months, another German, Franke by name, said that he was prepared to pay me $12.00 a week if I went to work for him.  I agreed to this proposition but told Franke:  "You give me a good offer, but permit me to tell Jung about this first.  He was the first to give me work in America and it would not be appropriate for me to leave him without first discussing it with him. "Oh, of course", said Franke.  "Go ahead." I told Jung that Franke was offering me $12.00 a week and would he be upset with me if I left. "Be upset with you if you were to go to work for a better pay?"  says Jung.  "Oh no.  In America you go where it is better for you, and no one can be upset with you.  I myself would go on to better work if I were to be paid better." And so I went to work for Franke for $12.00 a week, and after three months he raised my salary to $15.00 a week.  In those days this was such a huge sum that no one would believe me when I told people this. But they believed me only when I showed them my pay statement from my boss.

 

Meeting with a Countryman

 

After about a month in America, I met with my countryman Stefan Murdza.  We met completely by accident.  One evening I was walking down the street, and he was walking toward me.  We recognized each other at the same instant.  You can imagine how we greeted one another.  In those days in Shamokin there were no more than 20 of our people.  That is why no matter where one went one looked for his own.  In the event that they met, they greeted each other as brothers, even if they had been enemies back home.  Upon meeting, they would embrace almost to the point of suffocation.  Tears would come to their eyes on hearing one's mother tongue.  They immediately went to a saloon, bought each other drinks, talked about their experiences, and mostly about their mother country. Life was so lonely, that today one finds it difficult to understand how one could endure it.  Furthermore, all were single men. Among our people in Shamokin there was not one man with a wife. All were either single men, or men who had left their wives in the old country.  This was one reason for the lack of permanence of this immigration.  Even though new people kept arriving, others kept returning.  A man would come for a few months, earn the money he spent paying his way across, worked to make 2 or 3 stives (or a few hundred guldens), and then chains could not bind him to America.  Often I spoke and tried to persuade them to stay longer, save up more money, but this did not help. One should not be too surprised at this, when one takes into account that there was no organized community life for us.

 

Organizing our own church

 

After I had lived in Shamokin for some time, a momentous event for our people occurred.  The first Ukrainian National Business was organized. Dr. Volodymyr Semenovich, Mr. Janovich, and Mr. Karpovich worked in it, and one of the directors was Antin Veslotskij. But this wasn't the need which we felt most urgently; it was that our people did not have their own church.   Our people lived mostly in homes of Poles who had immigrated before us and were somewhat acclimatized to America.

Polish landlords treated our people quite brutishly.  Many were former manor stable boys or servants who, having earned some money in America thought that they had latched-on to the leg of God Himself. They established a rule that our people would pay 50 cents a head to attend the Polish Catholic Church, and on Sunday the landlord brought home from the church other former servants such as he had been, and would order our people to fetch beer for them.  When our boarder fetched a keg the landlord drank with his guests and would only once-in-a-while offer our man a glass of his own beer. Our people went to the Polish church, paid their allocated tithe, donated other materials and offerings, but did not enjoy equal rights. The Polish priests always spoke of them with contempt; the Polish parish priest in Shamokin did not speak differently about them except to say: "--and you, you dark-faced Ruthenians-" You might imagine our joy when at last our own priest, Father Woliansky came to visit.  The first service was held in the town of Shenandoah and our people from all the surrounding towns came to this church. I don't know from where so many people appeared, but we filled the church. Obviously people came from absolutely everywhere. Within a day of that service the Polish priest came to the Ruthenian National Business and I personally witnessed his asking whether it was true that a priest had come to visit us.  "True", we said.  "But do you have permission?"  "We have."  "From where?"  "We have from somewhere." "But we, Poles, do not permit this." The quarrel that flamed up from this incident was so sharp that Teliowskij, who worked in the store grabbed the Pole and threw him out the door with such force that he fell on his face in the middle of the street.  We prepared for every eventuality, but from the Polish side there was no retaliation.  We carried on with the service and the Poles just did not show up.  It was as if they didn't exist.

 

Troubles with the Irish

 

We also had plenty of similar problems with the Irish.  At first our people in Shamokin were Ukrainians from Lemkian and Western Carpathian lands.  Before long, people from Podilia began arriving. As time went on there were more of us who did not wish to return at once to our native country.  They then started thinking about marriage. At first they would send for their girlfriends from the old country, and the girls arrived already spoken for.  Some immigrant would know some girl in the old country and wrote to her to come to join him.  If he sent money the girl came with enthusiasm.  After a while girls came from other areas of America, knowing that it was possible to find a husband.  Afterward, when the miners learned that in some areas such as in Pasaik, in the state of New Jersey, there were a lot of girls, they went there as if to a market place. We once had an occurrence with the Irish:  There was a wedding of one of our fellow countrymen.  It was just getting started when a band of Irishmen came into the hall.  They ordered us out.  If any objected they physically threw him out.  They sat at the tables, ate our food, and drank our drinks. But this was the first and last time.  At the next wedding we were organized and when any Irishman even walked near the hall he was dealt with.  We realized early that they were quite uncivilized, and we could not fear them; if one didn't fear them they were quite cowardly.  When we realized this we could thenceforth deal with them.  Then when the authorities nabbed the famous Irish McGuire gang and hanged 18 of them, some in Sunbury, others in Patsville, then all fears of the Irish disappeared.

 

The Beginnings of a Self-Help Organization

 

When the self-help society  "Soiedyneniie" was organized, I enrolled and at the convention was elected Treasurer.  The president, Mr. Zhyndczak-Smitt, gave me a bag for money and said that I must diligently record income and expenses. To "Soiedyneniie" belonged Galician and Hungarian societies.  It promised a sum of $400.00 to a named beneficiary at the death of a member. As Treasurer, I immediately became involved in disagreements with the Hungarian Greek Catholic priests who directed "Soiedyneniie" at the time.  As soon as I received funds from some branch organization, then some priest, one or the other, took the money for his own needs.  One needed something for his church, another needed to pay for passage for his wife, and so on. Finally I said to Zhyndczak-Smitt, "Mr. President, this can not go on. What will the people say?  What sort of report am I to give the convention?  They not only take the money, but refuse to give me receipts." Zhyndczak nodded as if he wanted to say that this should not be, but left the matter with me and he himself did nothing.  I went to him again, gave him back the bag of money, gave him the $50.00 in cash and compelled him to take the responsibility for the executive. Later I spoke with our parish priest, Father Konstankevich.  He said: "This must be investigated".  In time he told me that he looked into the matter and became convinced that "Soiedyneniie" was run by priests. "This organization is not for us", said he.  "We need our own organization."  At the convention in Scranton Father Konstankevich criticized the executive "Soiedyneniie" for financial irregularities.  "How can you manage this way", said he, "that you collect money from members and there is nothing in the treasury?" To this a Hungarian priest replied:  "You, Father, are still a greenhorn, and don't understand matters.  Leave it with us because we have been in America longer and understand these matters." In reply to this Father Konstankevich pointed to the window:  "Do you see that telegraph pole?  It has been in America longer than you, but what does it know?  You speak to me as you would to a fool, that in America one needs to learn the ways, but I came to America fully educated--" This did not persuade the directors of "Soiedyneniie", and their stubborn behavior persuaded the Galicians of the hopelessness of remaining in the organization.  And so  the idea of organizing our own Association came about, and Father Kontankevich and Father Hrushka called the first meeting of this new organization in Shamokin.  The brotherhood of St. Cyril and Methodius withdrew from "Soiedyneniie" and called for the other organization to withdraw and throw its support to "Ruthenian National Association".  I was elected President, Father Konstankevich Secretary and Glova was Treasurer.   We had 150 members immediately.  A death benefit of $400.00 was established. We started managing our own society affairs, but the Hungarians started organizing against us. In the first place they sued the Brotherhood of St. Cyril and Methodius for non-payment of 3 month's dues.  We lost this court case and Father Konstankevich and I personally paid the dues and the court costs. We started organizing new members.  We wrote to people in all the settlements, organized meetings in different localities, and we would speak with them about their need for a self-help insurance organization. We had varied experiences.  Once we came to a picnic in Jersey City. Some welcomed us, but others were going to beat us.  "Ahhh, radicals!" "You don't believe in God!"  "You came to turn us away from the church!" Similar happenings in other towns occurred wherever we went to speak.  And we always paid our expenses personally. Even in Shamokin where the President, Secretary, and Treasurer were based, things did not progress as one would have expected. But a misfortune occurred here which showed our people the value of this organization.  An accident in the mine took the life of Sharshon, a countryman well known to all, a member of the Fraternal Society of St. Cyril and Methodius.  Our Association immediately took charge of the funeral.  The entire membership did not go to work, but went to the funeral instead.  We wore our Association crests, and marched to the funeral in ranks.  We carried banners.  We went to the railroad station with the body and went with it to Shenandoah for burial. At the next meeting the entire membership appeared as one.  And everyone brought his premium and dues.  From the feeling at the meeting it was clear that there was a new spirit in the Association.  The people understood that not only did they need the organization but that our organization would indeed do for them precisely as was promised.  Our people understood that we were capable of managing our affairs.  We believed that with our own managerial skills we could build our self-help organization and manage it successfully.

 

I had the honor of being President of the Association for one term.  At the second convention I turned over the presidency to I. Glova. The presidency had cost me much effort and money.  But I don't begrudge these at all.  When I see what a power-house grew from such small beginnings, I am moved with pride that to the growth of that power-house, I had contributed my modest bit.

 

Theodosiy Talpash